Comments on: Seriously, Is This A Real Problem? http://mona.myartbliss.com/post/seriously-is-this-a-real-problem Art, Animals, and the Creative Experience Sun, 20 May 2012 12:48:37 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.1 By: Angela Finney http://mona.myartbliss.com/post/seriously-is-this-a-real-problem#comment-7656 Angela Finney Sat, 29 Aug 2009 18:48:52 +0000 http://mona.myartbliss.com/post/seriously-is-this-a-real-problem#comment-7656 Thanks for the links to some "seriously beautiful" horse artwork -- you can say that again. Thanks for the links to some “seriously beautiful” horse artwork — you can say that again.

]]> By: melanie http://mona.myartbliss.com/post/seriously-is-this-a-real-problem#comment-7634 melanie Fri, 28 Aug 2009 19:54:41 +0000 http://mona.myartbliss.com/post/seriously-is-this-a-real-problem#comment-7634 ok ill see if i can get my cat to do something, if it works out ill have to put it on the forum as a challenge, to see what everyone comes up with : ) ok ill see if i can get my cat to do something, if it works out ill have to put it on the forum as a challenge, to see what everyone comes up with : )

]]> By: MonaMajorowicz http://mona.myartbliss.com/post/seriously-is-this-a-real-problem#comment-7633 MonaMajorowicz Fri, 28 Aug 2009 18:43:57 +0000 http://mona.myartbliss.com/post/seriously-is-this-a-real-problem#comment-7633 Hey <strong>Mel</strong>, Kinda an interesting thought. You think you got enough people who'd participate? You'll have to let me know if you do. :) Hey Mel, Kinda an interesting thought. You think you got enough people who’d participate? You’ll have to let me know if you do. :)

]]> By: MonaMajorowicz http://mona.myartbliss.com/post/seriously-is-this-a-real-problem#comment-7632 MonaMajorowicz Fri, 28 Aug 2009 18:41:12 +0000 http://mona.myartbliss.com/post/seriously-is-this-a-real-problem#comment-7632 Your kinda a serious guy today,<strong> Robert.</strong> Huh and here I was thinking of a horse doing the painting. You know like "a horse, art competition." Actually many animals "paint" I know many primates, elephants, sea lions and horses. (and as you said they have representation) Probably loads more I don't know of. These are mostly painting because trainers have taught them to for reward (referred to as enrichment) and then continue on because the animals enjoy it. But I don't think they are artists. Just like a 3 yr old making mud pies is not a chef. And a horse at a barn is not musically inclined just because he loves the sound of breaking glass. (pops the windows out quite regularly) You know I love critters and think of them as family. But they are what they and and need to be celebrated as such. Apes are way closer to us than most people like to think, but I doubt they will be much bothered from the exclusion of an art competition. Your kinda a serious guy today, Robert.

Huh and here I was thinking of a horse doing the painting. You know like “a horse, art competition.”

Actually many animals “paint” I know many primates, elephants, sea lions and horses. (and as you said they have representation) Probably loads more I don’t know of. These are mostly painting because trainers have taught them to for reward (referred to as enrichment) and then continue on because the animals enjoy it. But I don’t think they are artists. Just like a 3 yr old making mud pies is not a chef. And a horse at a barn is not musically inclined just because he loves the sound of breaking glass. (pops the windows out quite regularly)

You know I love critters and think of them as family. But they are what they and and need to be celebrated as such. Apes are way closer to us than most people like to think, but I doubt they will be much bothered from the exclusion of an art competition.

]]> By: Robert Sloan http://mona.myartbliss.com/post/seriously-is-this-a-real-problem#comment-7623 Robert Sloan Fri, 28 Aug 2009 09:24:31 +0000 http://mona.myartbliss.com/post/seriously-is-this-a-real-problem#comment-7623 That's a bit frustrating actually. I know that there are some apes that paint and have humans representing them and there are also some people who encourage cats to paint. I doubt a cat would produce anything representational -- they seemed to do abstract patterns that sometimes resembled four-point mandalas -- but apes may well learn to paint something recognizably a horse. Scary thought to me, considering that they are such close cousins -- scary the thought of their being specifically ruled out, just on the off chance that a being with thumbs could learn to paint without being of my species. That’s a bit frustrating actually. I know that there are some apes that paint and have humans representing them and there are also some people who encourage cats to paint. I doubt a cat would produce anything representational — they seemed to do abstract patterns that sometimes resembled four-point mandalas — but apes may well learn to paint something recognizably a horse.

Scary thought to me, considering that they are such close cousins — scary the thought of their being specifically ruled out, just on the off chance that a being with thumbs could learn to paint without being of my species.

]]> By: melanie http://mona.myartbliss.com/post/seriously-is-this-a-real-problem#comment-7618 melanie Fri, 28 Aug 2009 06:34:01 +0000 http://mona.myartbliss.com/post/seriously-is-this-a-real-problem#comment-7618 hehe thats a funny rule! i think one time they should do a competition for animals, by animals...I wonder what they would come up with!! : ) Maybe thats one for our pet portrait forum!! hehe thats a funny rule! i think one time they should do a competition for animals, by animals…I wonder what they would come up with!! : ) Maybe thats one for our pet portrait forum!!

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